November Update: Sold up and Moving on

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November 2015 Kids biking down front drive

We are excited to share with you that Kyabra Station is officially sold as of yesterday afternoon!

We have been really busy the last few months and it looks like we will continue to be so as we begin to plan and organise aspects of our future, as well as, pack up and sort out all the residue that is part of finalising the property sale, closing accounts and shutting down twenty years of business.

Pete and I are learning that doing things in harmony with Principles of God’s Truth, Love and God’s Laws makes life smoother and more simple. Dealing with past actions that we have taken and ‘tidying’ up family matters and company dealings that originated out of addictions and unloving desires has at times, been confronting, emotionally and physically painful and time consuming.

It is great to be getting everything sorted out, and beginning to find the emotional causes within us for the issues being there in the first place (even coming to the intellectual recognition of what we have created is helping). I feel this is very important for future business dealings. So though we have found aspects of this process challenging, there are many lessons of love to learn*, if we are open and willing to feel them.


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20151117 overlooking tree lanes from Trig Hill, Kyabra Station, Kentucky, NSW, Australia

Where to now?

For the next few weeks we will be staying on at Kyabra Station in Kentucky, NSW, to help out with the transition of the property to the new owners, this also allows the kids time to finish up their school year neatly. This is a gift to all of us as it means we don’t have to rush to pack up and leave immediately and gives us the opportunity to fully sort out a few issues that still need to be tidied up about the place. It also gives the new people coming in a bit of extra time to find a new manager.

Once we leave we are looking forward to having a rest and beginning/furthering plans for some exciting future projects (more to come on this at http://discoverylearningcentre.org )

It will be the first time that there is not ‘something to do’ ALL the time and we look forward to creating a lifestyle that gives ourselves an environment that totally supports us feeling and growing our relationship with God and our own soul. I feel pretty in awe that this opportunity is being presented to us. A year ago I didn’t even realise this was something we could actually do for real. How cool is GOD!!!

Please note that the Kyabra Learning Centre blog will no longer be continued. From now on this will be our official blog for all our project based and discovery based learning sharing.

Our contact details are as follows:

email:                    eloisalh@gmail.com
this blog:              http://discoverylearningcentre.org
personal blog:   https://petereloisa.wordpress.com/

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20151117 ‘Yabby Creek’, Kyabra Station, Kentucky, NSW, Australia


We are noticing that in times of stress, reminding ourselves of God’s Truth* on any given matter is super helpful and that when we keep feeling, that things are much smoother and feel better, even when initially they may have felt like a catastrophe. When we are resistant and don’t feel, the issues seem to get even bigger.

For more information on how to do this in relationships check out:

https://www.youtube.com/user/divinetruthfaq/search?query=partner+relationships

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20151117 Trig Hill, Kyabra Station, Kentucky, NSW, Australia

Some paddock grass is so tall that the sheep are getting ‘lost’. We saw sheep hiding, avoiding being mustered.

Changes

There is a lot going on in our lives at the moment including some potentially wonderful changes and I thought I would send out an update with where we are all at.

Some of you may have heard that we have the property ‘Kyabra Station’ in Kentucky (aka The Kentucky Learning Centre) on the market to sell. This is true and the four of us (Peter, Susan, Michael and I) are hoping to sell as soon as possible.

20150504 For Sale Sign Kyabra Station

20150504 For Sale Sign Kyabra Station

When Kyabra Station sells our intentions are as follows:

Peter and I  (Eloisa) have purchased a small property in Wilkesdale, Queensland, which will be a base where we can keep our personal belongings, conduct experiments and come back to after periods of traveling, exploring and discovering. We would love to do projects in harmony with Principles of God’s Truth around Australia and overseas.

We will still be running a Learning Centre, it will just be in a different form than it is now. What we learn, trial & discover we will share with others and this can be done wherever we are and whatever we are doing. We feel we kind of are the learning centre, smile, and so wherever we are we will continue to experiment, explore, discover and share our findings. We will continue doing projects including environmental experiments and education programs in the future.

We feel that we would like to be in more of a consulting role and travel more widely, sharing what we learn and any discoveries we make. We feel that we can only share what we have actually experienced and we feel that will grow with time and as we learn and discover more along the way.

Pete and I have a growing desire to begin to right the wrongs we have contributed to in the world due to the way we have chosen to live our lives so far. Particularly at this time in regards to what we have done to the children in our care, the environment and animals.

We would like to share our experiences of where we have come from, where we are right now and what we discover in the future in the hope that others may benefit from our experiences. We desire to share the up’s, downs, transitions, exciting things, challenges and resistance’s so that you may learn from our mistakes, if you desire to, and hopefully to demonstrate that real, lasting soul change is the most powerful change and is totally possible. We will include our personal discoveries of ‘how to’ in making those changes on our blogs and websites as we find out, ‘how to do it’ ourselves, smile.

We have begun a new Blog site that by the end of the year will become our main sharing medium for the future. You can check it out here, its called – Discovery Learning Centre:

www.discoverylearningcentre.org

It has everything from the ‘Kentucky Learning Centre’ on it and will have much more in the future from different places and spaces.

Our YouTube Channel is still the same:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc3HpSoS743CoZ0WcS67IHw

And from now on we are contactable via:

eloisalh@gmail.com

Peter and Eloisa’s personal blog remains the same:

https://petereloisa.wordpress.com

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Susan and Michael are planning to head back down to the Southern Highlands Bowral, NSW, area where they plan to live and run workshops and share information to do with Raw Food,  Animal Husbandry, saddlery and various other subjects they are interested in.

Susan still has her blog up and running and can be found at:

http://livingrawwithsusan.blogspot.com.au

And both Michael and Susan are contactable at the following email address:

susanandmichaellh@gmail.com

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We would like to take this opportunity to thank those of you who have donated financial gifts, your personal time, gifts in general, resources, and your expertise to us and the projects we have run at The Kentucky Learning Centre (Kyabra Station) over the past six years. Thank you for your support and contributions. We are really grateful!

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Our new place at Wilkesdale, Dec 31st, QLD

The Black Sheep of The Family

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20150223 Blackie the Ram with the black tongue. The reason his wools looks a bit brown/black is from sun damage and weathering (UV rays) on the wool which causes discolouration on the tip of the wool. Blackie, blackie Jnr have the badger gene which is why they have the white on their forehead’s and tails.

We thought it would be a really fun project to select a superfine black merino flock – specifically for growing black superfine merino wool as a luxury commodity.

In the superfine wool industry and wool producing merino sheep world, black sheep are ostracized. They must be shorn separately as if there wool gets mixed in with the white wool it ‘contaminates’ it and makes it ‘unsalable’. Black sheep are usually the first to be culled (killed) and have little to no value in the wool industry.

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20150225 Blackie Jnr’s wool in close up

So we decided that we would attempt to change this and open the world to the possibility of change. Pete wanted to genetically select sheep for a blue black fleece. There are a range of colours in merino sheep including white white, yellow white, brown, badger – a combo of black, spots, brown and white, brown-black, black-black, and the possibility of blue-black, and many other colour combinations.

When Pete discovered a ram lamb with a black tongue he felt he was onto something and indeed he was (the black tongue is important as it is more likely that the animal carries dominant black wool genes). Any ewe with traces of black wool or the potential of carrying the black wool gene were also selected. This included small black spots on the face, badger or spotted sheep or any who had produced black lambs in the past.

Jim Watts who developed SRS sheep (more information can be found on Jim’s website: http://www.srsmerino.com ) has classed sheep with Pete for the last 20 years was keen on the project also. He said that the likelihood of a black wool progeny on the first cross was pretty much zero, so how excited were we when a little black wool ewe popped out. And then a little ram lamb in the second cross.

20150225 Blackie Jnr the sheep. The reason his wools looks a bit brown/black is from sun damage and weathering (UV rays) on the wool which causes discolouration on the tip of the wool. Blackie, blackie Jnr have the badger gene which is why they have the white on their forehead's and tails.

20150225 Blackie Jnr the sheep. The reason his wools looks a bit brown/black is from sun damage and weathering (UV rays) on the wool which causes discolouration on the tip of the wool. Blackie, blackie Jnr have the badger gene which is why they have the white on their forehead’s and tails.

The little flock was growing.

So when we decided to disperse the flock we were concerned for the future of the selected black wool sheep as their future did not look very bright. But thank’s to Jim we were introduced to another couple of graziers who had had a similar idea to ourselves.

They own a small spinning mill and spin their own fibre and plan to spin black wool into yarn and cloth. They brought some of the black wool flock and so the project will continue.

We feel it is exciting that there are people with the desire to do things differently in the world and challenge the status quo. We are also excited that Blackie and his family will live out their lives in luxury and care with people who like sheep (we heard that one particular sheep where Blackie has moved to eats the occasional Jatz cracker for morning tea*, and turns it’s nose up at any other brand).

If you are interested in finding out more about the black wool sheep Hansie and Gary Armour are contactable at: http://www.milkymerino.com or at the following email address: hansie47@hotmail.com (They also spin milk into fibre, and Alpaca fibre as well as merino wool/wool at their mill).

* sheep LOVE salt.

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20150225 Sheep with a badger facial marking.

20150225 Daughter of Blackie

20150225 Daughter of Blackie

Our Experience With Sheep, Lice & God

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20150505 Sheep with lice coming into the yards to be sorted

We have had some pretty cool Law of Attraction events happen lately.

One in particular stands out.

Lice in sheep is not something that is openly mentioned in the grazing industry.

Usually people would rather get rid of it and not mention that it exists in their flocks than be honest about it.

When I first arrived at Kyabra Station, Pete prided himself on having no lice in the sheep and being a ‘closed flock’ who didn’t get lice. He had a lot invested in this and if we did have lice or problems with the animals they were kept quiet and not openly mentioned. I have noticed there is a lot of shame in having ‘problems’ with livestock and so it often goes unmentioned.

How things have changed, smile.

We are in the midst of working through a lot of ethical issues to do with keeping animals for financial gain and we are in the process of selling the entire flock of sheep as we cannot continue to justify what we are doing.

So when Pete discovered that we had a mob of lousy sheep  (Sheep with lice) he was not impressed. There is an emotional reason why we attracted this event and interestingly enough it coincided with some people wanting to buy some of the sheep also.

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20150505 Sheep showing signs of lice

So Pete had a couple of choices: he could say nothing and say he had no sheep to sell.

Or he could tell the truth.

Pete told the Truth. He called our livestock agent and said, ‘We have discovered signs of lice in the sheep. We are happy to sell them, but we want anyone desiring to purchase them, to know that they have lice and be open & upfront about it’.

We had fear that no one would buy them along with various other emotions. We felt some of this and low and behold people still wanted to buy the sheep, even with lice.

I feel the Law of Attraction is awesome, I reckon it was a way of showing Pete that when he is Truthful, has integrity and is ethical he is harmony with God’s Laws and so wonderful ‘surprises’ can happen, which in the past we never thought possible. Over the last couple of months over three thousand commercial ewes (sheep) with lice have been sold (to graziers who were okay about purchasing sheep with possible lice. Most of the sheep do not have lice.) We have never experienced this before.

20150505 Lice in sheep wool, close up

20150505 Lice in sheep wool, close up (A bit hard to see the lice but they are the littlest yellow things. the bigger yellow lines are grass seeds.)

Lice is just like head lice in humans, except it is a sheep specific breed. It is curable by shearing and dipping or back lining the sheep in/with a chemical solution, just like you would treat lice in humans. It causes sheep to feel itchy and irritated which then causes them to bite, chew and rub their wool in an attempt to ease the itching. This causes mass cotting of the wool – in extreme cases.

20150505 Lice sheep biting

20150505 Lice sheep biting

We found out some previously sold sheep had also showed up with lice so we have paid for the treatment of those sheep, as we were not aware at the time of sale that they had lice.

20150505 Lice in sheep wool, pulled wool from biting. The first signs of cotting

20150505 Lice in sheep wool, pulled wool from biting. The first signs of cotting

Then the coolest part of this story happened.

We were contacted by an animal research centre who wanted 120 sheep who were ‘as lice-y as possible’ to try out a new drench on. (I am not sure how I feel about them being tested with chemicals) But the fact that we were being asked for lice-y sheep was pretty cool.

We got a call a few days later saying that 20 were not lice-y enough and could they come and get some more as we were the only lice-y sheep in the district. This of course is not true but due to the fact that pretty much everyone is not truthful or downplay’s any disease or imperfection in animals no lice-y sheep could be found.

So really I feel that the moral to the story is to honour Truth, Love, be Humble, Ethical and upfront always and feel the fears within yourself, then God’s Laws can work with you rather than against you and amazing possibilities become realities.

I feel delighted in being given the gift of seeing the positive results of being Truthful,and living in harmony with God’s Laws, when you do good things always happen.

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20150505 sheep with lice biting it’s wool to relieve ittitation

Blood Money – Killing animals for financial Gain

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Having been involved in livestock farming – sheep and cattle – for the last eight years I have noticed and contributed to many unethical practices and much environmental damage (see The Darker Side of Agriculture Post). What I have noticed most is what I am prepared to do for money.

Everything I own and have purchased in the last eight years comes from blood money. The money I have used has been made off the death of animals and the destruction of the environment*.

This is a sobering thought and not a very pleasant feeling, but it is the truth.

I have been thinking a lot about killing animals for financial gain or stomach gratification recently (An example: Producers/Farmers kill animals for financial gain, Consumers/animal product users eating animals to satisfy addictions). It has brought up a lot of interesting thoughts and hypocrisies for me. In fact there are many emotional ‘crisis’ occurring within me as I begin to look more deeply into the reasons why I have done this. As I begin opening up to feeling the consequences upon my soul for doing so, and ponder and feel about how I can remedy the damage I have done. I have been in denial, living in my false beliefs – such as feeling I am entitled to dominate animals and use them for my financial security,  and have deeply buried many of my feelings in order to justify how I make the money to lead the lifestyle I do.

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I have been an unethical, hypocritical vegan for about five years and I am only just beginning to actually notice the really big issues and reasons why I felt I was entitled to eat meat now**.

The irony is that it is not about the eating of the meat itself that drives me to support killing or why I used to consume animals. It is other things, for example, feeling I have the ‘right’ to kill animals rather than care for, learn from and enjoy animals while they live out their lives; Fear about not having financial security; My willingness to kill animals when things get ‘tough’ financially – fear of lack; My rebellion and rage that I ought to be able to do as I please if I want to; Trying ‘exotic’ meats or  having ‘exotic’ skins to stand out and be ‘different’, and feelings of superiority to other living creatures and intelligent life.

I have been thinking a lot about how we use animals. I find the responses to animal culling/slaughter interesting. When we hear 40,000 elephants*** have been killed in the name of preventing desertification, we get shocked or outraged. When it is reported that thousands of whales**** are used for human consumption or ‘scientific research’ we are in uproar and protesting. When horse meat is found in mince meat in Europe***** it is a world wide media sensation. Not much is reported on the mass killings of millions of sheep and cattle, goats, chickens and many other animals that we kill for food and consume each year, day, minute world wide. There is no protest about eating them or killing them unless it is deemed ‘inhumane killing’. There is little to no protest about the impact that growing meat has on the environment******.

Is killing for meat production ethical and moral******* under any conditions? It is killing, and I am beginning to feel, emotionally, it is wrong.

2014 Sheep mob in the yards for sorting

2014 Sheep mob in the yards for sorting

The protest by media in Australia about the way in which animals are killed in Indonesia was extraordinary******** I do not condone suffering in animals or humans. I just found this interesting as it wasn’t the killing of the animal that was an issue, it was the way in which it was killed that seemed to matter.

How many people are even aware of the process an animal goes through to get to be a piece of meat, a pair of shoes or a handbag? How many people have actually been to places where live stock are killed (abattoirs, farm meat houses etc) and experienced the entire process? How many of us have actually watched footage of the entire process?******** And if we have, how many of us have remained emotionally open, sensitive and felt the animal and our own true feelings while it happened? I suggest if everyone had remained emotionally open, what is happening in the world in regards to animals would be very different right now.

The reality, in most cases, is that agriculture is based on financial gain, in the case of livestock it is about an animals’ worth to the farmer, it’s dollar value. For example with sheep you don’t look at the sheep as a beautiful,  incredible animal and a gift of God’s creation who we are the carers of, we look at a sheep in regards to how many lambs it can produce, what kind of mother it is, how many kilograms of wool it cuts/produces, how much it’s carcase is worth as meat.

Agriculture, at this time, is based upon using and selling. In our personal business, the commodity we trade in is livestock. It is generally considered ‘good farming to sell livestock when the monetary gain is high, we are successful based on how much money we get for a sheep or it’s wool. The only reason that we wouldn’t sell livestock is if we felt that they could reproduce more progeny or fibre, or we could potentially get more money than the current market offers.

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Animals for generations have been used, often abused, and discarded when they no longer serve a purpose, example: before tractors there were draught horses, what happened to these teams when technology got more progressive? in many cases they were destroyed, mass slaughter, which indicates to me that people didn’t love them, rather they had used them and then got rid of them when they were of no use any more. This is not love between man and beast, this is man using beast for personal gain. Even pets are about meeting our addictions and personal gratification rather than genuine care of the animals. We need to sincerely look at our feelings and attitudes towards animals and the relationship we have with them.

I find it ironic that the majority of those who get outraged about mis-treatment of animals or the environment often sit down to an animal based meal each evening, if not a few times a day and think nothing of it? From my observations people still want to eat meat and animal products. In fact I would go so far as to say they feel entitled to their meat based meal and if it was taken away would feel extremely annoyed, even enraged. Why? That is a good question. I feel it is based upon our emotional addictions, emotional demands, emotional beliefs and other particular emotions we desire to hold onto**********. Check the advertisements out on television of green fields with chooks or cows in them luring you into a false sense that your cow ‘lived a good life’ before it became your dinner – we don’t really want to know the reality, let alone feel it.

Thanks to Serge Bertasisius Photography and FreeDigitalPhotos.net for the use of this image

Thanks to Serge Bertasisius Photography and FreeDigitalPhotos.net for the use of this image

People who are likely to stay vegan for their lifetimes are those that make the choice based on ethics and morals, often accompanied by a genuine emotional shift**********. Even if we don’t eat animal products we often use them in other ways, sometimes without even realising, for example in clothing & accessories, cosmetics, wine, vitamins, sweets, vaccines.

I feel that our desire for meat and animal products, the impact that has on animals, the planet and the universe and the rate of destruction of the environment because of our demand and expectations is worth reflecting upon, worth investigating and worth feeling about. It is up to each of us to find out why we do what we do for ourselves and feel about why we do it and if we desire to change or not. If we don’t desire to change I feel it is worth looking at why  we don’t want to.

Pete and I have been discussing new and different ways to remedy the issues we have created, contributed to or exasperated. We have been discussing different ways to ensure that food production takes place in a way that is harmonious with Love and how we might convert what we do now into something that gives to the land first, rehabilitates and replenishes the depleted soils and creates abundant, self sustainable eco-systems abundant with intelligent life, as God intended the Earth to have. We have much to feel about where we are right now, and we have lots to discover of how we can move forward in a way that is sustainable and in harmony with God’s Laws. As we embark on this investigation we will share our discoveries, thoughts and ponderings.

I have included in the foot notes some interesting links to investigate and contemplate if you so desire: I do not endorse or agree with everything in these articles, I do feel there are some interesting points to explore and for me reading and viewing these things brought up feelings I had not been aware of before. I also feel it is important to be informed of what is actually going on and to find out why and how I contribute to the suffering and problems in the world personally. Because if I understand my contributions and the emotions in me that cause these things, I have the opportunity to change them. If I live in ignorance the damage continues and no change can occur.

We hope you enjoy exploring, questioning and discovering more about yourself and why you choose to do what you do.

Note: We are noticing that there is a lot of mis-information out in the world. A lot of ‘facts’ lacking real or scientifically based information and embellished or diminishment in order to suit someone’s motives. We feel this is actually manipulative. We notice that often some truth is put with a heap of illogical information that is un-tested and un-verified. We need to examine what we are being told and find out what’s really going on rather than accepting and believing everything at face value.

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Footnotes:

** 2 While we have domesticated animals we are not truly vegan. We still have emotions and would under pressure be prepared to do things that are unethical and unloving in regards to livestock.I have no desire to eat meat, but I am using animals for financial gain. All the links mentioned in this post I suggest finding out about for yourself and verifying the ‘facts’ before you take it them as the truth. I suggest widely reading and praying to know God’s Truth on the matters discussed. If you have a sincere and genuine desire to know you will find the truth.

***3 Alan Savory youtube clip where he talks about his responsibility in the decision to cull 40,000 elephants and that he now realises that it was wrong to do so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUMQVqtjUAQ

Articles disputing Alan Savory’s agricultural & farming methods: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2014/aug/04/eat-more-meat-and-save-the-world-the-latest-implausible-farming-miracle

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2013/11/cows-carbon-and-the-anthropocene-commentary-on-savory-ted-video/comment-page-4/

****4  Whaling articles

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/international-court-of-justice-upholds-australias-bid-to-ban-japanese-whaling-in-antarctica-20140331-35ude.html

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-17/phillips-the-flawed-science-of-the-whaling-commission/5751232

*****5 horse meat media sensation stories 

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/feb/14/horsemeat-beef-tests

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/feb/09/aldi-100-percent-horsemeat-beef-products

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-21430329

******6 http://www.wearesalt.org/how-meat-addiction-is-hurting-the-planet/

*******7 Check out Jesus’ talk on ethics and morality

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mybby95f3vs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA9-BS7-ouw

*******8 Animal slaughter in Indonesia:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/thats-not-halal-killing-indonesian-cleric-joins-attack-on-cattle-slaughter/story-fn59niix-1226066813585

********9 ‘Earthlings’ is a really interesting documentary about how animals are treated, raised and consumed.

http://earthlings.com

‘Cowspiracy’ is a documentary about the impact of livestock, inparticular, cattle on the Earth & environment.

http://www.cowspiracy.com

Cowspiracy responses and interviews

http://blog.allisonsgourmet.com/2014/10/31/the-story-behind-cowspiracy-with-kip-andersen-and-keegan-kuhn/

Blog response to an article on Cowspiracy.

http://www.loghancall.org/?p=78

*********10 To read more about the emotional reasons why people sometimes struggle on a vegan diet check out the following link to Jesus’ letter to Lucette on Veganism. I feel if we dealt with the causal emotional reasons, beliefs and investments we have to eating meat, we would have no need or even desire to eat meat.

https://www.divinetruth.com/www/en/pdf/FAQ/General/JesusMary/20150228%20Jesus%20answers%20question%20about%20vegan%20diet%20and%20digestion.pdf

**********11 Info on Veganism:

http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/becoming-a-vegetarian

http://thevegantruth.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/a-compilation-of-long-term-vegans-our.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country

Tasty vegan & vegetarian recipes, by Sarah Britton:

www.mynewroots.org

20140828 As full as the dam has been so far. You can see the erosion lines in the foreground and some of the pioneer plants on the far bank

20140828 As full as the dam has been so far. You can see the erosion lines in the foreground and some of the pioneer plants on the far bank

Interesting websites and links to critically explore and feel about:

We were looking at these in regards to the impact that livestock and farming has upon the environment. Many of these websites are pushing their opinions and at times trying to manipulate the viewer to agree with them. There is also some good info amongst this.

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Things you may like to ponder further in regards to this subject:

  1. The ethics and morality of: (based on Jesus definition of ethics & morality can be found above)
    • killing animals
    • growing meat and all that involves
    • intensive mass farming and the impact this has on the environment
    • your personal contribution to these things
  2. Your personal contribution and your unhealed emotions, beliefs, expectations & demands that cause these things to happen and how you can change yourself to help the world
  3. Are we using ‘prime agricultural’ land in the most loving and efficient ways?
  4.  Check out the water footprint of growing meat how does this compare to growing plants?
  5.  How do you feel about the destruction of places like the Amazon Rainforest, Desertification in Africa etc? What is your personal contribution to this?
  6. Reflect on how easy it is to destroy. How easy forests and land are cleared in comparison to the effort it takes to rehabilitate and regenerate forest/rainforest to it’s pristine state. I don’t think that total rehabilitation to it’s original state has ever been achieved by mankind yet.  It makes me wonder, if it takes such effort to right the wrongs we have done why do we keep destroying things that work perfectly and work for us? If we stopped destroying and worked in harmony with nature rather than against it, great things could occur.
  7. How we are changing the water cycle and interfering with the water tables as we clear more land and our demand for more water increases. Are we harvesting the resources we have e.g rain as efficiently as we could? Due to deforestation by human hand, we have messed up collecting the moisture that naturally occurs and so have dehydrated the land even more. Humanity seems to so often be working against nature rather than in harmony with nature, why do we do this? Natural eco-systems are self sustainable and work PERFECTLY who are we to be so arrogant as to think we know better than God? why are we trying so hard to work against God’s perfect design rather than in harmony with it?
  8. Are you aware of how much water, energy and land is used to support domesticated animals? You personaly? The worlds entire population?
  9. Do you feel being angry at your partner, child, brother/sister, fellow human is ‘better’ in comparison to killing an animal?
  10. Find the truth on these matters from God’s perspective.

The Darker Side of Agriculture

2014 Sheep muster

2014 Sheep muster

Pete and I have been reflecting about how we have made money and lived* off killing animals. We have been discussing what we have done in the name of farming and how we have used the land and animals for financial gain. We have said a lot of things like:

“We love and care for sheep; We love and care about animals; We love and care for the environment’; ‘We are custodians or ‘caregivers’ of the land’. But do we truly love?

The Truth, based upon our actions, shows otherwise**.

I am beginning to see the Truth and reality of the decisions we have made on ‘our’ farm. We feel we own it and we can do as we please with it. We feel that we are entitled to take as much as we want from the environment and livestock, and to be honest many of our ‘environmental’ decisions haven’t been because we have had a pure desire to Love the environment but because we wanted to improve the land to get more from it, example grow more grass to run more livestock. At this time we are takers rather than givers. We continue to run sheep and ‘love’ them until we need money and then we sell them. We hope that re-stockiest will buy them, but often its abattoirs, so we have sold them to slaughter.

To put it bluntly we trade and kill animals for financial gain. Our financial wealth is made from blood money.

Pete and I were adding up approximate numbers of animals we have been responsible for raising and their eventual deaths due to the personal choices and decisions that we have made for the 19 years that Kyabra has existed in it’s current form.

It is important to note that we often want to pretend and tell ourselves that we are responsible for less killings because we have sent animals to re-stockers (another property), cattle agistment  (providing grass/food for other peoples cattle) and they don’t immediately die. The truth is that for the majority of domesticated animal’s***, their eventual fate will be death by human hand, for human or pet consumption by abattoirs or by other killing locations (the back yard meat house).

Approximate numbers of animals**** we are responsible for raising, killing or their eventual death over the last 19 years:*****

Estimates

  • 115,000 Sheep
  • 15,000 Cattle – raised, killed and supported by us in running cattle on agistment
  • 450 Alpaca’s – on agistment
  • 16 or more Eagles – killed by poisoned sheep carcasses
  • 100’s Crows – killed by poisoned sheep carcasses – uncertain of accurate numbers
  • 1000‘s Kangaroos – killed by contract shooters
  • 1000’s Rabbits – killed by contact shooters, intentionally spreading calicivirus across entire property when first arrived, poisoned 1080 carrots, 1000’s Foxes – killed by contract shooters and intentional poisoning
  • 100’s Pigs – killed by contract shooters
  • 1000’s Eggs – I found this hard to calculate when I realised I needed to include everything in my entire life I have eaten that has contained eggs. That is A LOT of eggs as I loved cakes.
  • 100’s Cats
  • <10 Wild Dogs
  • Any wild animal that has eaten poisoned meat or 1080 baits we are responsible for killing. We cannot give absolute numbers as in some years we have put out over a thousand 1080 fox baits and we do not know the numbers of animals and creatures that have died or had an associated death from these intentional poisonings. For example, 1080 carrot baiting for rabbits we have no idea how many rabbits died from it and how many foxes, birds and pigs then subsequently died from eating the now poison rabbits.

I (Eloisa) have wanted to feel I am better than Pete and other farmers because I told myself I wasn’t ‘responsible’ for any of the killing, I didn’t take part in it in a literal way. I haven’t wanted to see what I have been doing, the consequences of my actions and the demand I have upon animals, the environment, and others, mainly because I want financial security. I am wiling to justify, compromise and desentise to issues that are morally and ethically wrong to get my addictions, demands and expectations met.

So what I now need to accept is that I want financial security and I want the lifestyle that I lead; I want Pete to do the ‘dirty work’; I want to take from the earth rather than give and live in harmony with God’s creations; I wanted to distance myself from the truth of what I have done and make out I am better than I am; and I want to live off the ‘blood money’ of an industry that is contributing to the destruction of the environment and will end up negatively impacting future generations and affecting their quality of life.

We have been discussing how our actions and what we are doing, and have done in our agricultural practice is contributing to the destruction of the environment world wide.

Examples of adverse environmental effects from current agricultural practices: Destroying the ozone layer with methane gas from cattle and livestock gas, affecting the natural seed bank by stock eating the shoots and the plants not being able to seed and reproduce. We are responsible for the degradation of the land, erosion and the beginnings of desertification; jeopardizing the natural seed-bank; the pillaging and pollution of waterways – lakes, rivers, seas, chemical pollution; degradation of the soil; competition between domestic and native animals; the decline of native animal species and all sorts of other destructive environmental effects. All of these things are not loving nor caring towards the environment and are not in harmony with God’s view on how eco-systems work******. All of these things not only effect us now, but will negatively effect and impact future generations lives as well.

The more we destroy now, the more we take, the more we continue to run livestock or partake in mass scale intensive farming with the demand to take what we please, when we please, the more damage we are creating.

We can get judgmental, blaming and all uppity at farmers and primary producers making them ‘wrong’ and feeling that it is ‘they’ that need to remedy the situation, but we need to look at both sides of the story and our personal contribution to the situation. It is not just ‘their’ problem it is ours too. The media and groups like Animals Australia and the RSPCA, for example (there are many other groups not named), get up in arms about how other countries slaughter animals, or how some farmers are treating animals, they choose who is doing the ‘right’ thing and who is not. Animal activist groups are willing to sneak in and take videos to discredit farmers.

I wonder why these groups are not also sneaking into people’s homes in the city where people eat cow, sheep, chicken or fish each night and give a view on how terrible this practice is and how it is contributing to the rapid degradation of the planet, it’s atmosphere and possibly even further into the universe. And how in fact it is a combination of the barter system between producer and consumer that actually perpetuates the cycle and actually contributes to dodgy farming practices, because farmers are only keeping animals for financial gain or trying to meet a demand which is too large to be sustainable.

Many people want ‘organic’ meat, or ‘grass fed beef’, or RSPCA condoned brands of dead chickens in the super market, as they feel ‘better’ about eating this than feedlot beef or battery farmed hen. What the consumer is not realising is they are in part responsible for many things they are unhappy about, including mis-treatment of animals due to their demand for meat and animal products (see list above of adverse environmental effects from current agricultural practices).

The majority of us are not interested in looking at our personal involvement in the reasons why meat is produced in the first place, how it is produced, the emotional reasons why we eat it and how it is contributing to the destruction of the planet, wildlife, domesticated animals, eco-systems and ultimately humanity.

We are so desensitized and this is a huge problem.

In order to change for real and begin to heal the planet in a real way there will need to be personal change at a soul level, the allowance of old beliefs and fears to be challenged and felt, and a willingness to experiment and modify existing agricultural practices or try totally new ones. I feel that people in agriculture could actually make the radical changes necessary to both feed everyone on the earth and fix the planet environmentally. People will also need to examine their current consumer choices and dietary desires.

It will take heart and soul change as well as physical effort & attitude change. It will take re-education and new education based on Truth, love and care, rather than fear and greed, for all of us to make both the emotional and physical changes needed to do things differently. We need to stop the cycle of ignorance and educate ourselves on what is really happening, this may take experimentation and trying new things, we need to discuss the real issues, feel about them and desire to change it in a loving, positive direction. All these things I feel are possible and hopeful in a world that at present is being destroyed at a rate that is faster than nature is able to repair.

I feel if we really knew the truth of our own choices and how we personally contribute to what goes on on farms and how involved and responsible we are personally in what is going on in the world; If we believed that change was actually possible and had ways to make those changes personally, that we may have more desire and be more likely to take the opportunities to change and make different decisions. While we keep these issues at arms length, justify them and remain desensitized they will continue to happen and we will all continue do what we have always done which means no change can occur.

To be honest if something doesn’t change very soon (Like beginning change today) in 20 years the turn around will be even harder and more labour intensive because of our choices to not do anything. As is quoted by many, ‘the best time to begin is now’.

Footnotes:

1 My focus will mostly be on livestock in this article as that is what I have experience with at this time. I feel some of the comments in this article also apply to other intensive agricultural practices such as cropping.

**2 I do not disregard that we have had a growing awareness, and on some projects an intention to love and care for the environment, but it hasn’t been holistic, it has been selective, unethical and often hypocritical. Ironically with the realisations we are having now about just how ‘off’ we have been, it begins the process of awareness and we have the opportunity to love in a real way and make real change in order to right the wrongs we have perpetuated.

***3 This is the reality for all bar a lucky few that will die a natural death after a long and (questionably) enjoyable life. Many animals die on the land but there are many instances where this is not due to old age and a life spent grazing the luscious grasses and herbaceous plants. Rather illness, bad management, natural or man made disasters, drought, starvation, attack or all sorts of other reasons could contribute to their demise (these are all attracted by sheep owners soul condition, so are the responsibility of humans also).

****4 I (Eloisa) am also responsible for each animal that I ate part of during my meat eating years. Each animal that had it’s skin used to shod my feet and give me pretty handbags or wallets; Each animal that was boiled down to meet my sugar addictions by supplying gelatin in the sweets I ate; The colostrum of cows for a facial product; Fish oil in vitamins and lots more. Even my desire for these things contributes to animals dying, I was a consumer supporting a market based on animal slaughter.

*****5 These numbers are a rough guide to how many animals we suspect we have killed or been involved in killing. We don’t have accurate records and Pete has tried to estimate to the best of his ability for these numbers. I share these numbers to show you the magnitude of what we are personally responsible for and to illustrate that it is wrong to kill animals for financial gain and human consumption.

******6 Jesus’ talk on ‘Loving Eco-Systems’ LINK

20121031 Creating Loving Eco-Systems, An Introduction S1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndtLmM20hH4

20121031 Creating Loving Eco-Systems – An Introduction S2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7kJrBx5jrY

Pure Gyrs 027

Sheep

 

Photo taken by local artist Michael Taylor.

2006 Photo taken by local artist Michael Taylor.

Sheep are animals that come with all sorts of connotations, assumptions and stereotypes. They are used the world over for a huge amount of products for peoples comfort and consumption. They naturally produce amazing fibre with incredible qualities. I often feel sad at how disposable animals are to people. We do not often truly appreciate the gifts we are given.

I have often heard the phrase ‘sheep are dumb’. I cannot agree and having lived on a sheep property for some years now I can say with certainty that sheep are not dumb. I can also say for certain that sheep reflect the people who ‘own’ them, use them, or who look after them – perfectly – may I be so bold as to say they resemble society at large in many ways.

Sheep have been part of Pete’s life since he arrived on the planet, his parents had sheep on their farm and then he decided to make a business out of sheep, selling wool and raising lambs & sheep for meat production. Sheep have also been part of mine too – in that I had a sheepskin to sleep on from the time I was born & was eating various parts of sheep from around 3 years old, I also wore woollen jumpers, leggings, singlets and pretty much everything wool for much of my life, I love wool. I have also ‘lived off’ sheep – financially the sale of them, and some eating of them, for the years I have lived in Australia.

Sheep have contributed to our income, supported our life style, run the property financially, provided us with food – meat – until a few years ago, given their wool for profit and basically we have used sheep to exist in this world in more than a few ways.

2014 Sheep in the yards

2014 Sheep in the yards

We value domesticated animals above all other animals, because they provide for us financially.

We have noticed the competition this sets up between species and how it influences how we think and feel about different animal species, labelling some ‘pests’ and doing our utmost to eradicate them (imagine the projections they receive, is it a wonder many species become aggressive or completely decline?). Our feelings of more importance, love and care for domesticated animals effects how different species interact with each other (we – humans – are the common denominator and as we experiment & make some change, discover more about where our soul’s are out of harmony with love, we are noticing animal behaviour and interactions changing also).

We have experienced attack on the ‘favoured’ animals – the sheep – and we have experienced interesting things happening with the sheep and non domesticated animals as we work through some of the imbalances we have in regards to our love and care of all creatures. For example the animals used to exist entirely separately, now there is more intermingling. Kangaroos used to bolt as soon as they got whiff of us, now they will more often stay and observe us before bounding away, sometimes only raising their heads before getting on with grazing or sun baking, there is still ways to go, but we are noticing differences in the environment around us.

I haven’t blogged much about sheep and I think at first it was due to not seeing how much they contributed to our lives, taking them for granted, and then because I felt ashamed when I decided to go vegan at how unethical I was, at how blatantly I was using them and was continuing to support the meat industry when we needed money and no one wanted to buy sheep to re-stock, only for meat production. There are some hyporcritical aspects here.

It has taken approximately four years for us to get to a point where we no longer desire to use sheep anymore. Four years to face up to our lack of ethics and see some of the results and consequences of this. This year we are selling the flock, hopefully entirely to people who want to grow wool and continue the beautiful fibre that the sheep Pete has selected produce, it is beautiful and so soft.

2014 sheep freshly shorn

 

2014 shearing: Kids in the wool

DSCN54882014 Super fine fleece

 

For more awesome information on animals and Creating Loving Eco Systems press on the link.

I would like to share some things I have noticed about sheep:

  • Sheep are so domesticated (thousands of years of domestication) that they pretty much do as man dictates because man has created them that way. They have been bred so they will not fight, are not aggressive, can be man handled and easily manipulated to do what man wants. (In using the term ‘man’ I am using it to indicate both genders male and female).
  • Some people seem to like exerting power over sheep rather than treating them lovingly (not all, but I have noticed many people take their feelings out upon sheep – animals in general – rather than feeling their feelings without harming another creature). They man handle them and take their aggressiveness and frustration out on sheep which I find ironic as they are really being aggressive and angry to a very docile animal that if you treated it lovingly and kindly would probably do what you wanted it to without any fuss. But people seem to feel that they need to force and ‘make’ sheep do what they want. I feel sad about the treatment of sheep.
  • Sheep are collective consciousness animals as far as I can gather. When following a flock being mustered, I have noticed that the sheep at the back seem to know what the sheep at the front are doing. If one sheep has a feeling, all the sheep the will know that feeling and often react to it also.
2014 Sheep muster

2014 Sheep muster

  • If you can get just one sheep to go through a gate, into a pen, over a river, ALL the sheep will follow. But it needs one brave one to go first else all of them will wait.
  • Sheep can swim. Not marathons, but they can swim.

2013 sheep crossing Spring Creek

 

2013 sheep crossing Spring Creek
  • Sheep give birth seemingly effortlessly and have amazing breathing technique (some have complications, but seem to have less when they have less interference from people). I did some lessons with them when I was pregnant because I was amazed at how simple and fearless the birthing process was for them. I learnt that the body is designed to have babies and will do so without you ‘doing’ anything, if you let it do it’s thing. If you have fear then the body will reflect that and shut down, feel the fear and the body naturally does what it needs to do.
  • Sheep move in circles. They will move in circles as a form or protection as well as when uncertain what to do and they will also walk in circles when they are blind.
  • Sheep eat in the moonlight.
  • Sheep stand still to conserve energy, they don’t move much when it is hot and look for shade.

2014 Sheep keeping cool in heat of the day

 

2014 Sheep keeping cool in heat of the day

 

  • They pant when hot or afraid.
  • Sheep are inquisitive. I watched one in the shed the other day sniff the conveyer belt, lick the air with her tongue, tentatively touch the conveyer and then step on and sit back to see what would happen next. It was just like watching a dog check something out for the first time.
  • Dog’s are scary when they nip and or bark all the time and fear is a recipe for chaos and disaster.
  • Sheep can be really hurt, e.g. have their uterus hanging out – prolapsed, a broken leg, ruptured cancers, been attacked by dogs with half their backsides hanging off and yet they still walk as best they can. They are distressed, but when Michael, Susan and Pete put them to sleep (psychic anaesthesia) and operate on them, they seem to trust that they will be taken care of. When the surgery is complete they wake up and walk away on their own accord, as best they can with the injuries they have.
2014 sheep under psychic anaesthesia while having a broken leg set

2014 sheep under psychic anaesthesia while having a broken leg set

2014 Sheep snout, sheep under psychic anaesthesia while having a broken leg set

2014 Sheep snout, sheep under psychic anaesthesia while having a broken leg set

  • Sheep don’t need to be mulsed, ever. People choose to do this to sheep.
  • Sheep can have tails that are usable so they don’t need to be cut off. This will take time for the likes of merino sheep for example as they have been bred for wool and to be big and heavy so it might take a couple of years to breed in the genetics to change the tails, but it is possible.
2014 Sheep lifting it's tail. An experiment we began where all sheep would be able to keep their tails

2014 Sheep lifting it’s tail. An experiment we began where all sheep would be able to keep their tails

2014 Sheep lifting it's tail. An experiment we began where all sheep would be able to keep their tails

2014 Sheep lifting it’s tail. An experiment we began where all sheep would be able to keep their tails

  • Sheep reflect the people who own them and work with them. Sheep can literally walk themselves to where ever you desire them to go if you leave the gates open. Whether they do or do not is based on your soul and the attractions you create. An example: Pete has told me that lambs can be ‘difficult’ getting into a shed. They don’t always know where to go, they haven’t experienced it before and they can have reservations about various aspects of the process. It is interesting when Pete is calm and un-expectant how many times the lambs have literally taken minutes to all walk themselves into the yards and shed without any problems what so ever.
  • It is also interesting when Pete has some anger or frustration, fears or other un expressed emotions how chaotic and messy the process is, it can take hours. The dog gets in the way rather than helping, the sheep miss the gates and split into more than one mob,heading in different directions. And we thought sheep were dumb, smile. This doesn’t just happen to Pete, this happens to the guys who work here and to anyone who does the muster. If Pete and I go out together then all sorts of things have happened – especially if I am not doing what I am supposed to be doing, or I am afraid of getting it wrong, it totally goes wrong,  we have also had ‘perfect’ runs into the yards in my limited mustering experiences.
  • When sheep are unwell or the season is hard, they have the ability to drop their wool so that their energy can go into healing themselves.
  • Sheep, when they are little particularly, are playful, fun and funny to watch. In the evenings lambs congregate together, they meet up and play, they chase, jump and run about madly. The mothers follow behind bleating and trying to ‘organise’ – that could also just be a reflection of me with the lambs at our place, smile.
  • Adult sheep also leap and can jump really high.
  • There are a number of rams who have literally jumped over the yard rails and shearing shed gates.
  • Sheep are community animals, they like to hang out with each other in groups. There are leaders and those that come up behind. They look out for each other. They will ram you – excuse the pun – if they feel threatened or afraid, but that is rare and they will do their utmost to get away from you first!
  • It is amazing walking through a mob of sheep as they will all move away from you, it is like a sea dividing before you.
  • They have soft silky noses and make the baaaa ing sound by sticking their tongues out.
  • There are so many other cool things about sheep, if you have the opportunity I suggest going and hanging out with them for a while and getting to know them, give them some credit and love for all the amazing things they do, and the next time you think of them being ‘dumb’ remember they have been ‘dumbed down’ by humans and reflect us perfectly.
2014 shearing: Kids in the wool

2014 shearing: Kids in the wool

2014 Super fine fleece - raw product

2014 Super fine fleece – raw product